tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post5270528958423139685..comments2024-03-12T12:35:37.484+00:00Comments on Finnish from Afar Blog: GiantwordformationsTelefinnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02416099919182532105noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-71657563416840217322013-12-27T20:10:21.802+00:002013-12-27T20:10:21.802+00:00In this particular case it's actually easy to ...In this particular case it's actually easy to tell why "iso putki" is written separately and "jättiputki" not. "Iso" (big) is an adjective and those are not concatenated with the words they modify. "Jätti" is a noun (a giant) that can become a prefix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-72819860520490675952013-09-10T07:37:10.476+01:002013-09-10T07:37:10.476+01:00Regarding iso and jätti, not sure the example you ...Regarding iso and jätti, not sure the example you give works as jätti is usually concatenated, regardless of whether the combined word is actually a word on its own. You could have a "jättipizza", whereas is would be an "iso pizza". But I personally have no idea why that is.Telefinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416099919182532105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-44388203763273539942013-09-09T18:40:02.930+01:002013-09-09T18:40:02.930+01:00I know I'm bit of a party-blooper, but I have ...I know I'm bit of a party-blooper, but I have answers or at least good intentions to answer your questions:<br /><br />1. To concatenate or not to concatenate<br /><br /> - If it's pronounced as a compound word, then yes. What this means in practice is that if there is a primary stress on both words (iso putki), you write them separately, because they are two independent words. If, however, the second word begins with a secondary stress, you write it together, because it is only one word. Also another way to find out whether you can write the words separately is to add an adjective in between, a classical example being "punainen". 'Iso punainen putki' is okay, because it means "A big red tube", but "jätti punainen putki" is not, because "jättiputki" is a plant species of the parsley family, namely hogweed. Likewise, you couldn't say in English "hog red weed". I hope that clarified something.<br /><br />2. How to break up words:<br /><br /> - Like before; where the primary stress is, a word starts. Where the secondary stress kicks in, a new word begins. That only requires you first to hear the word and then be able to pick up the subtle differences in the stresses. :D (There are some even more subtle cues, but only linguistics know that so don't worry about it). But you are right, the word aamupalaverihuone is funny. Even most Finns would read it first "aamupala" + "veri", then soon realise that it doesn't make any sense, and reconstruct the word "aamu" + "palaveri" + "huone".<br /><br />3. Making sense of the word combination: <br /><br /> - Good luck with that :D Poikamiestyttö is a humorous word, joulupukki is a piece of Nordic tradition (before the early 20th or 19th century, a goat-headed man came to pay a visit. Even today many families hang straw billy goats in their Christmas trees Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Goat )<br /><br />And no one is really certain as to why we put on a pair of black socks when we are jealous, but Kotus has put forth some possible explanations for that: http://www.kotus.fi/?s=939Jarkkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07276157076734165902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-11584420625739224822011-11-14T12:53:41.246+00:002011-11-14T12:53:41.246+00:00There's a smaller, older word for bachelorette...There's a smaller, older word for bachelorette, in case you're interested. It's <i>neiti</i> - miss. No such word is found for males, AFAICT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-50960613100699683952011-07-13T23:40:58.589+01:002011-07-13T23:40:58.589+01:00I laughed so hard with this post, you nailed it! :...I laughed so hard with this post, you nailed it! :D It's fun to read about my native tongue in this perspective as it gives a whole new look on things I find in my everyday life and pay no attention to them.... :DMariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07108155474040675143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-65381435267431563282011-06-18T10:51:15.518+01:002011-06-18T10:51:15.518+01:00the gigantic words in Finnish are ace, aren't ...the gigantic words in Finnish are ace, aren't they? You've got to love a language like this. Admittedly I don't understand it most of the time but I adore it for its complete and utter insaneness. <br /><br />Incidental I'm so pleased you wrote about mustasukainen because that word has been confusing me for years. It really does translate literally as i thought it did. I thought I must be missing something. lolNot From Laplandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17165208811776097332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3896195978622826735.post-86543771471236310952011-02-03T07:02:16.554+00:002011-02-03T07:02:16.554+00:00Great post Olli! Been living in Finland for over 1...Great post Olli! Been living in Finland for over 12 years and I will always face challenges with the Finnish language - including these gigantic words you've posted! :DCarmenhttp://liveinfinland.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com